In a heated debate on the Gaza conflict on TalkTV, British writer Douglas Murray praised Israel’s efforts to safeguard its citizens, contrasting it sharply with the tactics of Hamas.
“Israel tries to use the IDF to protect its citizenry. Hamas uses the citizenry to protect Hamas,” Murray said.
Sparked by Shadow Secretary of State for International Development of the United Kingdom Lisa Nandy, the discussion delved into the dire situation faced by Gazan citizens and the morality and proportionality of Israel’s reactions.
‘Proportionality in conflict is a joke’
Challenging conventional opinions, Murray said, “Proportionality in conflict is a joke; it’s a bizarre British concept.”
He further articulated that only Israelis are expected to have a “precisely proportionate response” during conflicts, which he finds unreasonable.
Highlighting the disparities in wartime goals, Murray added, “The difference between the Western way of war and the Hamas terrorist way of war is that their objective is to kill civilians. The objective of Hamas is to kill innocent people.”
In contrast, he emphasized that nations like the United States, the United Kingdom, and Israel aim “to kill as few innocent people as possible.”
Murray also underscored Israel’s meticulous efforts to minimize collateral damage.
“Israel uses precision-guided missiles to limit civilian casualties,” Murray said.
However, he also hinted at a potential shift in Israeli sentiments and tactics: “I do not doubt that after the atrocities of the last week, the appetite of the Israeli public and military and politicians to continue this precision game will change.”
The discourse between Nandy and Murray underscores the multifaceted dilemmas nations face during the conflict. As the situation in Gaza unfolds, such debates bring to the fore the ethical quandaries linked to warfare, defensive measures, and the overarching principle of civilian protection.
